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User:Dispenser/Double extension

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Can someone perhaps remove all the deleted and renamed files from User:Dispenser/Double extension so that only the ones that still need to be fixed are left? Jonteemil (talk) 20:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can do so by forking the Quarry query mentioned in the SQL snippet (look for Fork in the upper right corner of the Quarry page), but I’m not comfortable editing a random other user’s subpage without seeing an explicit permission for doing so. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:37, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried forking it, see quarry:query/83409, but it just keeps running. It has run for a week now, yet still running. Jonteemil (talk) 17:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could try to do just jpg ones or recent uploads.
At File:BSicon_numN327.svg.svg, I noticed the gui at Wikipedia lets you enter an extension and then adds it as well.
Before fixing individual files, I'd try to identify as many tools that create them and fix these first. Otherwise, more files will just be created. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-return-to-page vs MediaWiki:Returnto

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You are invited to join the discussion about localization of the Cat-a-lot gadget at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#MediaWiki:Mobile-frontend-return-to-page vs MediaWiki:Returnto. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cat-a-lot still doesn't work well

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Though this section was archived because the problem would supposedly have been resolved, Cat-a-lot still doesn't work for subcategories with at least one subcategory. So can this problem get a high priority and really be solved? It is now almost half a year that it arose. JopkeB (talk) 17:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could it be made to work on Special:MediaSearch? Or fix Special:Search to display the full images? Enhancing999 (talk) 09:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js#Editing_"Expand"_on_English_Wikipedia: It seems to try to edit the local version of Expand, which hangs if that page does not exist and edits Expand if it does. This led to en:Expand getting fully protected, so Cat-a-lot skips categories with subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:50, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03: Is that forever or can it be fixed? Until the beginning of this year it worked well. JopkeB (talk) 03:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What are you talking about? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:31, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is the problem (which is getting worse, today I cannot even work with Cat-a-Lot on the Special:Search anymore, only within categories) due to last forever or can it be fixed? This is becoming more and more an unworkable situation. JopkeB (talk) 07:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-24

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The software used to render SVG files has been updated to a new version, fixing many longstanding bugs in SVG rendering. [1]
  • The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It was changed last week in some skins (Vector legacy and Minerva). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in Vector-2022. The developers are still considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
  • The HTML markup used for citations by Parsoid changed last week. In places where Parsoid previously added the mw-reference-text class, Parsoid now also adds the reference-text class for better compatibility with the legacy parser. More details are available. [2]

Problems

  • There was a bug with the Content Translation interface that caused the tools menus to appear in the wrong location. This has now been fixed. [3]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 June. It will be on all wikis from 13 June (calendar). [4][5]
  • The new version of MediaWiki includes another change to the HTML markup used for citations: Parsoid will now generate a <span class="mw-cite-backlink"> wrapper for both named and unnamed references for better compatibility with the legacy parser. Interface administrators should verify that gadgets that interact with citations are compatible with the new markup. More details are available. [6]
  • On multilingual wikis that use the <translate> system, there is a feature that shows potentially-outdated translations with a pink background until they are updated or confirmed. From this week, confirming translations will be logged, and there is a new user-right that can be required for confirming translations if the community requests it. [7]

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New designs for logo detection tool

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Mockup for an alert when a logo is detected

Hello all! We're happy to share that we will work on logo detection in the following months and that we defined an initial approach for this.

You can read more at the project page and you can have your say in the project's talk.

We want your feedback on it, and we need your insights on how to further tune the detection tool.

Thanks for your attention! Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protection level

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File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg is autopatrol protected so why is there (protectedpagetext: editprotected, edit) system message on it? Is the Wikibase part of the page indeed under full (sysop) protection? --Geohakkeri (talk) 21:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is weird. The text This page is currently protected, and can be edited only by administrators. comes from Template:Protectedpagetext/PageProtected, but the expected text is at Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected. Both of these are transcluded by MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext depending on its first parameter $1. Here's the wikitext: 
{{#switch: {{{1|$1}}}
 | editprotected = {{Protectedpagetext/PageProtected}} <!-- Fully protected -->
 | templateeditor = {{Protectedpagetext/PageTemplateProtected}} <!-- Template protected -->
 | editautopatrolprotected = {{Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected}} <!-- editautopatrolprotected -->
 | #default = {{Protectedpagetext/PageSemiProtected}} <!-- Semi-protected -->
}}
Per mw:Manual:Interface/Protectedpagetext: $1 - the raw name of the right which is needed to edit the page. Special:ExpandTemplates for page File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg and wikitext {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} gives editautopatrolprotected, as expected, but "protection level" and "name of the right" might not be the same. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
editautopatrolprotected was added to MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext in Special:Diff/853065284 by User:GPSLeo, who is also the author of Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected. Perhaps they can check what went wrong. —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is the relevant code, I guess. There are editprotected and editsemiprotected hardcoded as the only options there. --Geohakkeri (talk) 20:51, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, if MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext depended on {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}} rather than the proper parametre, it would be a quick fix at least. --Geohakkeri (talk) 21:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. For reference, English Wikipedia's en:MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext has a similar #switch, with protect, editprotected, templateeditor, and extendedconfirmed.
Searching the code of MediaWiki,[1] I also found mentions of Protectedpagetext in PermissionManager.php,[2] which passes as the first parameter $1 either the string protect or a variable $right, which comes from function getRestrictions of RestrictionStore. My knowledge of PHP is limited, but I'd guess that possible values for restrictions come from $wgRestrictionLevels, hence templateeditor and editautopatrolprotected in Commons' version and templateeditor and extendedconfirmed in enwiki's version. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
{{MediaWiki:Protectedpagetext|{{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit}}}} on File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg would display Template:Protectedpagetext/PageAutopatrolProtected.
Wonder if it works correctly on enwiki, w:Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Protected_page_text/extendedconfirmed has no uses.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kalocsaizsuzsa.jpg?uselang=qqx shows (protectedpagetext: editprotected, edit)
Not sure what {{CASCADINGSOURCES}} is meant to do.
Maybe we could insert a switch based on Protectionlevel after "|editprotected =". Enhancing999 (talk) 15:15, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to look into this at test.wikipedia.org, but the settings there are different.
Here what is displayed on a file description page comes from javascript var "wbmiProtectionMsg". This might be filled with the actual protection level of the javascript source. Enhancing999 (talk) 12:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Footnotes

  1. ↑ git grep -i protectedpagetext -- '.' ':^languages/'
  2. ↑ note the manual mapping of sysop and autoconfirmed needed for backwards compatibility

Template presentation wigging out

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{{By color}} is displaying some CSS on Category:Orange gradient. I don't recall seeing this before and have used this template on several other pages. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to come from Template:Gradient, possibly transcluded there after a change by @OmegaFallon: on Template:By color [8] adding Template:Translated meta category name. Enhancing999 (talk) 03:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Interface administrator requests at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js

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There are several edit requests for interface administrators at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js. The following edit requests have diffs with proposals. In order of importance:

  1. Bug fix: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Minor edit unmarking feature not working (Special thanks to User:Miraclepine for reporting the bug.)
  2. Localization fix: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Mobile-frontend-return-to-page
  3. UI tweak: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/Archive 3#Please add link to Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot in the box

The page MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js already has instances of {{Edit request}}. Because of it, these new requests won't show up in watchlists of those watching Category:Commons protected edit requests for interface administrators. Hence this additional message at Village pump. —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas Werkmeister, as the most recently active interface administrator with recent edits in Gadgets, could you please take a look? —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did two of them, leaving the third one open for feedback for a moment. And yeah, the watchlist issue is a general problem with the current edit request system – MediaWiki talk:Copyupload-allowed-domains also suffers from it from time to time. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 21:03, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I've struck out the completed requests above. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Third one also done, and I’ll see if I can deal with Valerio’s edit request too, to get this out of the category. Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've disabled Valerio's request. Nardog proposed a bugfix two days ago in MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js § Random unexpected failures at enwiki. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Updated the links to the archived sections. Struck out the third request, which was implemented in Special:Diff/885487790. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-25

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • People who attempt to add an external link in the visual editor will now receive immediate feedback if they attempt to link to a domain that a project has decided to block. Please see Edit check for more details. [9]
  • The new Community Configuration extension is available on Test Wikipedia. This extension allows communities to customize specific features to meet their local needs. Currently only Growth features are configurable, but the extension will support other Community Configuration use cases in the future. [10][11]
  • The dark mode beta feature is now available on category and help pages, as well as more special pages. There may be contrast issues. Please report bugs on the project talk page. [12]

Problems

  • Cloud Services tools were not available for 25 minutes last week. This was caused by a faulty hardware cable in the data center. [13]
  • Last week, styling updates were made to the Vector 2022 skin. This caused unforeseen issues with templates, hatnotes, and images. Changes to templates and hatnotes were reverted. Most issues with images were fixed. If you still see any, report them here. [14]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar). [15][16]
  • Starting June 18, the Reference Edit Check will be deployed to a new set of Wikipedias. This feature is intended to help newcomers and to assist edit-patrollers by inviting people who are adding new content to a Wikipedia article to add a citation when they do not do so themselves. During a test at 11 wikis, the number of citations added more than doubled when Reference Check was shown to people. Reference Check is community configurable. [17]
  • Mailing lists will be unavailable for roughly two hours on Tuesday 10:00–12:00 UTC. This is to enable migration to a new server and upgrade its software. [18]

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Adding mediainfo to many files

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How to apply this edit to another 60 files? I have used Upload Master, but on last step it tagged only one file instead of all files from batch upload. MBH 12:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can use Petscan and Quickstatemnts for that like this
  1. Open Quickstatements https://quickstatements.toolforge.org
    1. Login to quickstatements from top right corner login link (you need to do OAUTH authorization before the Petscan->Quckstatement integration works)
  2. Open Petscan https://petscan.wmflabs.org
    1. In tab "Categories" click link "commons"
    2. In tab "Categories" add value "Interior of B-396" to the categories box
    3. In tab "Page properties" check the value "File"
    4. Click Do it! -button
      1. There should be 104 results
      2. In top of the result list is text box with text: "Command list; "P31:Q5" to add, or "-P31"/"-P31:Q5" to remove statements". Change the value to "P180:Q4073829"
      3. Click check all
      4. Click start QS
        1. In quickstatements click Run
--Zache (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
*Zache Thank you, all done. MBH 11:43, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Magnus Manske/sdc tool.js is way easier.
also, when you were using uploadwizard to batch upload, at the last step you can "copy statement to all files", which would have done exactly what you want to do. RZuo (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RZuo @Zache another question: I tagged English description of files as Russian [19] [20] , how to fix this? MBH 21:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would just use deepl, google translate, chatgpt etc to translate it to russian. Immediatly one could also just revert the edit, but in this case it doesn't work as system says that there is an edit conflict. --Zache (talk) 04:05, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MBH https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:View_from_Moscow_Sun_Ferris_wheel_19.jpg&diff=886167097&oldid=885974896
open the file page. a few lines below the file you can see two tabs "File information" and "Structured data". you can edit "Captions" in the "File information" tab. click the bin icon to delete a caption. click "publish changes" to save your edits. RZuo (talk) 07:31, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New changes to the "Depicts" step in UploadWizard available on Beta Commons

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Hi all! I wanted to announce that on Beta Commons a new version of the "depicts" step of UploadWizard is available for testing. This new version will be available until Monday afternoon. We're waiting for your feedback on it at the general Village Pump. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 10:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upload functions used by various tools

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Just wondering, is there a technical difference in the backend between the following ways:

Some observations:

  • I'd expect #1 and #2 to be the same, but somehow uploads are less likely to fail if one creates the file description page first and then uses the "upload" link there (#2).
  • The documentation for #4 mentions the api. Presumably this is the same being used by #5. The test I did with #4 seemed to work better than #3 usually does.

If ask for ranking the reliability of these tools, I'd say #5/#4, #2, #1, #3. Enhancing999 (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-26

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [21]
  • The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [22]

Problems

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [24][25]
  • Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [26]

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Tech News: 2024-27

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [27]
  • Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [28]
  • If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [29][30]
  • Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [31]
  • Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
  • One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Mandailing (w:btm:) [32]

Problems

  • Editors can once again click on links within the visual editor's citation-preview, thanks to a bug fix by the Editing Team. [33]

Future changes

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Cleaning up list of followed pages / How to limit an extended watchlist?

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Hi, is there a way to do a mass cleanup of the list followed pages? My list is so long that it frequently refuses to load (it times out). I want to keep a much smaller collection of files on the list. How can I mass remove selections of files, like the complete contents of some categories and their subcategories. What's the best practice to do this? Or even only follow what happens to my personal uploads. Peli (talk) 12:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

have you reviewed Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist? so that you dont keep adding much more to your list. RZuo (talk) 13:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pelikana: You can get the raw contents of your watchlist from Special:EditWatchlist/raw, and you can then edit it either in your browser or in the text editor of your choice. I can't immediately think of a way to winnow it by category, but it looks like it's sorted by when items were added so it might be that the items you want to remove are conveniently close together. --bjh21 (talk) 23:17, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter

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Below Commons:Copyright rules by subject matter#Toys there is a heading that isn't working, namely ==Trademarks and logos==. Can someone fix it? I wasn't able to. Jonteemil (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done --Geohakkeri (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Thanks. --Enhancing999 (talk) 10:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

File:HarukiKuramochi20230723.jpeg

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I don't know why this picture looks like it was damaged. If someone knowledgeable about this can fix it, that would be for the best.--125.230.78.179 10:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let’s ping User:Sreejithk2000 as an involved admin. --Geohakkeri (talk) 11:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know either, but I reverted it to the old version. Yann (talk) 11:13, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From the file history, I see that the file was overwritten at one point and I moved the overwritten file to File:HarukiKuramochi20230723-1.jpeg. I don't exactly remember how this image got corrupted though. --Sreejith K (talk) 14:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. --Enhancing999 (talk) 08:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

File:Night of the Living Dead (1968).webm

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It appears that the most recent version of this file (which, according to the talk page is a 4K restored version of the film) was not uploaded properly and cannot be played: "No compatible source was found for this media." Can someone please fix this? Johnj1995 (talk) 03:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SVG rendering on election maps

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I just uploaded a series of new maps for Icelandic parliamentary elections. I am seeing that despite the files being very similar, there are some inconsistencies with rendering of certain text elements. The circles should have abbreviations of the district names, these only appear in the 2021 map. In front of the party names there are boxes with the letters used to identify the parties, these sometimes don't show up. I have no idea why this happens. The font used is DejaVu sans which should work fine with Wikimedia. Bjarki S (talk) 09:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have identified the problem. For what ever reason, Inkscape decided to leave the coordinates (Y and X) of the missing elements as 0 in the tag tspan id. I'm fixing this manually in the XML editor. Bjarki S (talk) 10:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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